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With type 1 diabetes, the incidence is half the normal population, which is completely
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So it means that whereas sort of 18 to 22% of women, let's say one fifth, 20% of women
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suffer from migraine disease, in the type 1 diabetes population, it will be half that,
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10%, which is really interesting.
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Yeah, fascinating, fascinating.
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And it's not extremely documented, but the interval of confidence is 95%, so it's quite
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a very good, like it's a solid fact.
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Hello and welcome to this week's episode of Type 1 in Midlife and Beyond podcast.
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I'm your host, Melissa Slim, and I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes at 14, and I am the founder
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of Abundant Health with Melissa.
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And as a certified nutritional and hormone health coach, I understand the challenges
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of managing diabetes in midlife, especially with the hormonal changes, beginning in perimenopause
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all the way through postmenopause.
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And often support and direction are lacking, which is why I've created a coaching model
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and this show to help hundreds of women to feel heard and supported and to thrive during
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this stage of life.
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Each week, I'll share conversations with experts along with my insights from over 40 years
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of living with type 1, and also share how my faith helps me to navigate daily challenges.
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So if you're ready to redefine your diabetes journey as you age, this show is for you.
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And just as a reminder, this podcast isn't a substitute for personalized medical advice.
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Always consult your doctor before making changes to your diet, insulin, or health care plan.
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Hello and welcome to today's episode of the Type 1 in Midlife and Beyond podcast.
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I am excited to be joined by Diane DeCarmi.
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She has a Harvard MBA and a notable migraine expert and she hosts the Migraine Heroes podcast.
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She's fluent in seven languages and she combines Eastern medicine with Western science with
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a more advanced technology to uncover the root causes of migraines and their connection
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Diane, this is an important area of health that women tend to experience more than men
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and it only intensifies with the hormonal shifts that we experience as women.
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She is the host of the Migraine Heroes podcast and leader of Nectar Health and today, Diane
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is going to share and focus on some practical solutions and just explain, this is a surprise
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to me, the connection with migraines and those of us living with diabetes and how blood
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sugar fluctuations impact the brain, we know that for sure, and the role of functional
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foods in managing both conditions and Diane's philosophy of adding and not restricting to
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enhance our health and how migraines are a symptom and when addressed in healing and
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when healing begins, all areas of health, including blood sugar management will improve.
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She's going to share some inspiring stories and practical tips from patients that she's
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been able to meet and heal and Diane offers a holistic approach to navigating migraines
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alongside diabetes and if migraines are something you are struggling to manage right now or
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maybe you've had them kind of come and go in the past, I know that's a frequent thing
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that I hear, I encourage you to connect with Diane, her podcast, free resources, she has
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a community that you can plug into to get started and so your healing can begin for
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I hope you enjoy this conversation.
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at Abundant Health with Melissa and send me a message. Now back to the show.
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Hello everyone. I am in here this week with Diane DeCarmi. Thank you for being here with us today.
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With so much pleasure, Melissa.
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Yes, and you are from New Zealand. I've heard you on other shows before. I've had a pleasure of
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learning a little bit about you and your gifts and what you do around this topic, migraines,
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and I'm just so excited that you came in and you're going to share this
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real important information with my listeners here.
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Yes, yes. Indeed, I'm based in New Zealand and I am actually a New Zealand citizen as of yesterday
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as well, and I'm originally from Belgium. This is where your audience might hear the funny accent.
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My mother tongue is French, but not French from France, French from Belgium,
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which is just slightly different in the accent.
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Okay. All the things that, like I said, I haven't traveled overseas. I have never been to Europe,
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so I'm fascinated and it's definitely on my bucket list one day.
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Yes, yes, absolutely. Speaking of Eastern and Western, because I know this is your approach,
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and this is what I love bringing here because Eastern and Western approach to medicine,
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there's good and better with both, as you can probably agree. I'm all about looking for the
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root cause, and that's what really drew me to bring this topic on because this is your
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passion as well, is really figuring out the why.
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So if you want to explain maybe a little bit what got you into this,
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so what drew you into this area of health?
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Because probably it's an area of health where the East and the West make the least sense
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when you look at it from an outside perspective. So in the West, we're going to see that migraine
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is a neurological disorder for which the only answer is to medicate for a lifetime.
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And because it's genetic, it's 5% of boys and girls. And then this incredibly bizarre thing
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happens. The prevalence triples to quadruples for women at puberty. Yet pure hormonal migraines,
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pure hormones-related migraines do not account for that delta. And so it's an area where
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Western science is a bit blocked, if I may say very, very kindly. And whereas in the East,
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it's completely different. In the East, it is a non-event because they never look at the migraine
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itself. They look at what else is coming alongside. And if you fix what's coming alongside,
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you no longer have migraines. And so they're really all about the root cause. And once you
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get to the root cause of it, so the West is going to try to mute the pain, silence the pain.
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The East is going to try to listen to it. And when I was seeing these things next to each other,
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I thought it just didn't compute. It didn't make sense. And it started to completely passionate me.
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Yes, yes. I love that. Yes. And it's so important because migraines, like a lot of things that we
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may have experienced or suffer with, is a symptom. Our bodies were not created,
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we weren't put here on this earth to suffer from extreme headaches. There has to be a cause.
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Yeah. And from the onset, I really want to maybe talk about this pain and migraine as a full body
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experience. And we know that from the West, we know that migraine can come with head pain, yes,
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in most of the cases, but sometimes not. They can be silent migraines. It's a minority. And
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you can come, it comes with other symptoms such as vomiting, dizziness, aura, so visual disturbances
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like dots and prisms in the vision. It can come with a blurred vision. It can come with trembling
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sensations, trembling sensations in the hands, in the arms, in the legs. It can come with half
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paralysis of the body. And so people are going on the floor. It can sometimes come in the form
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of what is called migraine attacks, where the person is going to be losing their eyesight and
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falling on the floor to the extent they need to go to the emergency room. And they themselves will
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think they had a stroke because it does look like a form of a stroke in that kind of migraine attack.
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And so it has a lot of colors and other facets and all the way to people having
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dizziness, the vertigo on a constant basis and not being able to focus properly. And so
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it's a big umbrella, yes, of massive pain that exactly like you say, you're not born to be
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living with, you're not created to live a life of pain like that. Yeah, yeah. So what is the typical,
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what age demographic? You mentioned women because in hindsight of the things that I hear,
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you know, we hear friends, family members. I will say I don't have any family members that
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suffer from migraines, you know, so nobody close to me, but definitely within the population of
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people that I'm around, it does seem to be more common for women. Yes, yes. That's quite striking.
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That's quite striking. So it's 5% of boys and girls. And at puberty, we're going to have 18 to
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now we talk about 22% of women in the US. It's one in fifth women versus one in 20 men. And then
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around perimenopause, so 14 above, there's again, a massive shift of some people having used to have
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headaches in their life and now have debilitating migraines. Some people who used to have them
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episodically and have them chronically. Some people for whom it reduced in frequency and
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severity. And some people, it's not less, it's not more, but it's just changed in nature. So again,
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a huge transition against symptoms. Again, you know, like you say, against symptoms.
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So what is the, yeah, this is fascinating because this is all the things we talk about. And I know
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you're going to dive into the connection with diabetes, which I'm about to learn a lot about
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as well. So like I was mentioning, I'm not that close, even though on the outside, I'm aware of
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people, women suffering with migraines, but I'm not close to people who have migraines. So I guess
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I don't really know what the day to day is like, what sort of treatment the average person is
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getting? What's offered right now to ease? A lot of, that's a great question. And I, you know,
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what is offered right now is a series of different medications, most of which would say 95% of which
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have been engineered for other diseases, because migraine was not looked at like that. And
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accidentally through trials, or through just, you know, medical, you know, people,
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doctors trying to fix other things, they found, okay, these medications can also help for migraines.
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So let's give a few very concrete examples. In the case of, for example, cardiovascular issues,
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this is how we realized that triptans could also help with migraines.
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And having depression, and depression and migraine are highly, highly correlated.
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If you have, you know, chronic migraines, you're two to three times more likely to have depression.
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But if you have depression, you're also more likely to have migraines. And from a genetic
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standpoint, it's hard to know which is giving which. For women themselves, it's sometimes hard
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to know, like, I'm not depressed, but the doctor asked me the question. And I said, but my life is
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so awful, I feel depressed. But I'm not, it's not my personality, that's not who I am, fundamentally,
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but am I? It's hard to have self-doubt. So antidepressants will be oftentimes prescribed,
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not necessarily because the person is depressed, but because it has seen possibilities of
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improvements. And so there's a lot of anti-epileptic drugs, or ergots, etc, that have been
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designed to address other diseases. And when applied to migraine, we're showing some level
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of efficacy as well for migraines. It's only until December 2019 that the FDA approved a new form of
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treatment called anti-CGRP, that will try to block the message that goes essentially from the gut to
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the brain, to express pain. And so that's the first time that we're doing that.
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Yeah, with data shows, look, there's different sets of data. If you look at the amount of people
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online exchanging on medications, if you just take a Facebook group of migraines, you will see
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walls and walls of complaints with sort of trying a lot of medications and not being helped.
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And oftentimes they will also have medication cocktails. So they will medicate their way out.
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The medication are painkillers. I repeat, the medication is a painkiller. So it tries to
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mute a message that would assume that the message doesn't make sense. If we take a simple analogy,
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you have a little boy, he's three years old and he's taking his shower for the first time.
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He's super proud. His mom is proud. On the way out, he jams his finger. He cries.
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The mom goes to the doctor and says, my child cries. He says, I'm sorry, here are some earplugs.
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You put one to the left, one to the right. You should be able to get back to your daily chores.
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She does that. It works. Except the child starts to do what? Cry louder and ask for more help.
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And until he starts banging on the door and the doctor says, oh, now we have a Bose headset with
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nose cancelling. And so what I try to mean is medications have their place. It's also super
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important to go to the doctor to get properly diagnosed. Super important. Super important to
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exclude things. I come from a family of doctors. I highly respect the profession. It is important.
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For 10, 20, 30, 40 years, you're going to have to survive. And so you're going to have to take the
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medications. But fundamentally, if you take a step back, why is my brain in pain? What is it trying
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to say? Yeah. Yeah. Stop and ask questions. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Well, before because I'm excited
[18:21]
to hear how you specifically are helping people and some tips and some true long term treatment
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options that I know that you're aware of. Let's let's trip over here to diabetes related, because
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tell me the connection. And you said that this it's something and it sounds like it might be new
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because I don't even know within the diabetes space. I'm very much involved. And, you know,
[18:47]
obviously, as a coach and within the community that I haven't heard diabetes and migraines in
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the same sentence. It's very, very, very true. Yeah. You know that I have I have done podcasts
[19:02]
on ADHD and migraines and IBS and migraines and leaky gut and migraines and and the depression.
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And there's a lot of prevalence and really high comorbidity with a lot of things with type to
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type one diabetes. The incidence is half the normal population, which is completely fascinating.
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So it means that whereas sort of 18 to 22 percent of women, let's say one one fifth,
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20 percent of women suffer from migraine disease in the type one diabetes population, it will be
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half that 10 percent, which is really interesting. Yeah. Fascinating. Fascinating. And it's it's
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it's not extremely documented, but the interval of confidence is 90 percent, 95 percent. So it's
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quite a very good like it's a solid fact. Yeah. Wow. Wow. And it might even be more of an impact.
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And because you already mentioned hormones. So if you're a woman like myself, type one diabetes
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over 40, when our when perimenopause begins, when our hormones are starting to shift.
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So somebody may be with diabetes and at an earlier stage is suddenly the migraines are
[20:18]
becoming much more relevant and much more of a problem. What can we do? Yeah. Where's the
[20:24]
connection? So how is this how is this more relevant for those of us living with diabetes?
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You know why? And I'm full of questions. I'm just fascinated by this. Yes, this is good.
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Yeah. Yeah. So so there's a lot of root causes that sits below the migraine. So if you really
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look at my brain is expressing pain. What is it expressing it about? If you think of a woman like
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a factory versus a man, a woman is a factory that is going to produce a lot of life matter, life
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force. She's going to produce 23 to 28 liters of menstruation in her life, like 23 to 28 liters.
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That's a massive amount. The man doesn't go through that. She's also going to produce children.
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Potentially, she has the ability to produce children. So, again, a man's going to produce
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sperm, which is extremely important and relevant in society. The woman is going to take on the work
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and produce the whole child. So if you were to say, oh, can I have an analogy with two factories?
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You'd say, oh, maybe the woman factory is a car manufacturer and she manufactures in their car.
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And maybe a man is an envelope. And I don't mean that in a condescending way. It's just that
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what we do, how we fabricate matter, like if you take a woman who's had two children,
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she's going to produce 30 kilograms of physical matter. Men never go through that. So it's
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different factories. From that moment, if you think of the brain as the dashboard of the factory,
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where the brain is connected to all parts of the body, the female brain is different. It is
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different. And sometimes we have these jokes online that circulate where you see the brain of a man,
[22:05]
there's an on off button and then the brain of a woman with lots of buttons. Think of that
[22:09]
dashboard. A lot of things can go wrong and a lot of things can go wrong, especially in
[22:15]
perimenopause. And this is where the science, it's not very strong there. So, for example,
[22:22]
just the stats on the prevalence of migraines and perimenopause is not so clear because it's winding
[22:28]
down and it's just very complicated. And even if you look at the type one diabetes and perimenopause
[22:33]
and migraine, it's just not there. But when you look at the root cause, you can start to
[22:39]
understand why does that prevalence increase and how is the body actually changing? Does that make
[22:46]
sense? Yeah, it sure does. Yeah. So has there been any sort of research on the connection with
[22:55]
our body? Obviously, our pancreas no longer produces islet cells to give us the insulin we
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need. That's the short and sweet of what we experience every day. But there's a lot of other
[23:07]
hormones going on as well. Is there a connection with that whole endocrine system that might be
[23:12]
related to what's going on with the potential for migraines? Yeah, completely, completely. So
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there's a lot of root causes that can stem. And again, if you think of the brain as a dashboard,
[23:26]
a lot of lights can go on when there are problems. And so if you talk about, for example,
[23:31]
hormones, the lights can go on, you know, when these are not produced in enough quantities or
[23:37]
well enough or are dropping or rising too quickly, then the brain is going to manifest. And so this
[23:44]
is where with type one diabetes, your community is incredibly, incredibly disciplined, incredibly
[23:52]
living within a range of within a range of longevity, optimizing for every single decision
[24:02]
and always taking the pulse, which is not the rest of the of the world. Right. Especially now
[24:10]
with so many metabolic diseases. Right. Yes. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. And so this is to me clearly,
[24:18]
clearly marking why. Like, it's not just that the genes are different because I don't like that. We
[24:26]
don't know. But it's really like how within guardrails you live your entire life and how
[24:33]
you're able to master the, you know, a number of your metabolic metrics and live in within
[24:39]
guardrails. Now, at Perimenopause, things become a lot more challenging. And you talk in some of
[24:43]
your podcasts about HRT, you talk about, you know, like how things just suddenly shift and,
[24:50]
you know, because you know your body so well. And so it's in those shifts that the migraine
[24:54]
prevalence can increase. Yeah. So nice. If we talk about the hormones in particular,
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in traditional Chinese medicine, for example, if you take the East version of it in the East,
[25:08]
they look at systems. And so they don't look at the hormones in isolation. They look at the
[25:14]
hormones as part of a system and the system that is mostly in charge of them. Well, there's two
[25:20]
systems with, you know, the pancreas and with the liver. So the liver system is one massive system
[25:26]
that relates to hormones and the liver system. When you say I speak a lot of languages, I love
[25:31]
languages. I speak seven. And but it's almost I only speak two. I speak West. And when you see
[25:36]
in the West liver, you always designate the piece of flesh at the right side of your ribcage,
[25:41]
just under your ribcage. Yeah. It always means that when you see liver in Mandarin, which is
[25:46]
again, you don't mean that it doesn't mean that even Google Translate will translate it like that.
[25:51]
It doesn't mean that it means liver and the gallbladder and all of your female hormones
[25:57]
and all of your hormones. It's going to mean a lot of your brain, specifically your temples,
[26:02]
your eyebrows, the top of your head and your eyes, your vision. It's going to mean irrigation
[26:08]
of your tendons. It's going to mean collagen and ability to have sort of flesh, you know,
[26:14]
flesh production of liquids that allow for your body to function really well, ability to detox.
[26:20]
And so when they say gun, they mean all of that. They never mean the liver alone. They say the
[26:26]
liver alone. If you cut it and you put it to the side, you dissect it. This doesn't do anything
[26:31]
anymore. It's lost all of his magical power because he's part of the system. Oh, yes,
[26:36]
there's also breast and uterus as part of that system. And so when let's imagine someone who's
[26:41]
not type one diabetes, a naughty person, a naughty person, and they are living a life full of sugar,
[26:48]
of fat, all of that, they're going to overcharge the liver. From the moment they overcharge the
[26:54]
liver, they intoxicate the liver. OK, so they're going to start to have headaches and then migraines
[27:00]
potentially or migraines very suddenly because the inflammation of the liver organ is going to
[27:06]
send an inflammation pain to the brain. And so the brain's going to start to complain. Now,
[27:11]
if you look at the West for a minute, of course, in the West, we would agree if you
[27:14]
intoxicate your liver, you have a massive beast where you overdrink way too much alcohol,
[27:23]
you're going to have a hangover so that the inflammation of your liver can always be felt
[27:28]
inside the brain. Now, if we go back to someone who doesn't eat really well or or doesn't doesn't
[27:35]
and I don't mean that in a condescending way, because a lot of the people who have migraine
[27:40]
disease actually live, they've cut on chocolate, they've cut on wine, they've cut on cheese,
[27:46]
they made a lot of changes, not because they had a monitor and they had a roadmap for it,
[27:50]
but because intuitively they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, this is starting to give me migraines,
[27:54]
but not because depending on the time of their cycle, their liver is going to digest these foods
[28:01]
better or worse. So it's going to they're going to start there's going to start to need to rely
[28:06]
on their intuition. Now, if they go to the doctor and they have a lot of migraines and they've cut
[28:10]
back on wine, cheese, chocolate, what is going to happen is that they will get medicated. If
[28:15]
they get medicated, they add toxicity to the liver, which adds inflammation in the brain.
[28:21]
And so that will be one type of of migraines. Now, if you go to perimenopause in the perimenopause
[28:28]
in the West, and I like to go east west a lot, if you go into the West, the liver organ is going to
[28:34]
shrink by up to 44 percent. So it's going to lose 44 percent of its volume. So your ability to detox,
[28:42]
ability to produce hormones, your breast, all of that starts to become a lot weaker.
[28:50]
And and so it's that then you need to double down on stimulating that liver and say, hey,
[28:58]
dear liver, I love you so much. We're going to continue to power through for the long run.
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I'm going to adore you, cherish you. And you see that a lot in women in perimenopause. I mean,
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you know, almost 100 percent of the women I've ever worked with, by the time they hit
[29:13]
perimenopause, they will stop drinking. They're like completely not worth it. I can feel I'm just
[29:17]
not digesting that. And so people will start to make informed choices. But still, it's waters
[29:24]
that become a lot harder to navigate. Yeah, yeah. You're bringing up some great tips here. I love
[29:29]
this. And you obviously practice lifestyle medicine, which is what you're already talking
[29:34]
about before I even had a chance to kind of dive into it. So how do you now that we kind of have
[29:39]
that correlation, we understand that primarily women tend to be suffering with migraines more
[29:46]
and how it can be more more relative in the diabetes community. And you bring up something
[29:55]
too, because it's such a metabolic or the metabolic disease. I don't know what it is in
[30:03]
Europe, to be honest. I don't know the stats. I just know here in the U.S. it's 60, 70 percent,
[30:08]
maybe even higher of the population of all ages. And obviously our body's crying out.
[30:14]
And then you tap on. Well, and this is without type one of this. These are people,
[30:20]
women, midlife. There's a high degree of diagnosis of pre-diabetes and type two
[30:28]
for these the same population that you're talking about. And I'm willing to bet that tag along
[30:34]
things like migraines and the lifestyle that's kind of encompassing those symptoms. So it's no
[30:40]
wonder. It's no wonder. I mean, it's a sad state. So what are what are you doing in your practice
[30:47]
and how do you help people? I think the first step, like you say, is realizing it and then
[30:54]
finding people that are willing to maybe look for their own root cause and to make some changes.
[30:59]
So what does that look like? So it looks like a first is a hundred questions. Understanding.
[31:06]
I hear you have migraines. I want to know about your migraines. I want to know their frequency,
[31:11]
their severity, their location, the time of the day, the time of the cycle. All of that
[31:16]
is extremely relevant. And I need to know what else is going on. Do you actually have type two
[31:23]
diabetes? Do you have a leaky gut? Do you have irritable bowel syndrome? Do you bloat easily?
[31:28]
Do you have trembling sensations? Do you have a dry skin? Do you have an oily skin?
[31:32]
You have discharge in your eyes in the morning. Do you lose your hair? Do you, you know, do you
[31:38]
put on weight easily? Do you have a lot of a lot of weight in your belly, a distension of the belly
[31:45]
area? Do you have sore breasts? Do you have heavy menstruation? Do you have migraines during your
[31:49]
menstruation? Do you lose blood clots? And so all of that is coming together in a hundred questions.
[31:54]
So I'm just basically questioning the body. I'm asking the body, dear buddy, where is it that
[32:00]
you're trying to signal the problem? And usually because it's a domino effect of systems,
[32:05]
once there's one system that fell down, a lot of other systems will follow. And this is where it
[32:11]
starts to become more complicated for the person to be intuitive and rely on their intuition.
[32:17]
So that's the step one. Step two, step two is wonderful. Step two, you have now a myriad of
[32:22]
step two. I have actually created my own app. It's called Migraine Heroes that goes together
[32:26]
with the podcast of stories of migraine heroes. And now there's a freemium. And I love to see that
[32:33]
because I've had Melissa. So people, so many people saying I prayed for so much for an answer
[32:39]
like this one. And I feel you were the answer to my prayers because I've, you know, suffered for
[32:44]
so long. I also meet a lot of people who have massive financial struggle because for so many
[32:50]
years, they were not able to complete university, not able to work or fired from their work
[32:56]
because of the migraines massively conditioned their, their, their life and family. So from
[33:02]
there, you can download the app free of charge. It's called Migraine Heroes. It's really, really
[33:07]
cool. You know, think of it as a massive design that has been done by it's a love of a work of
[33:12]
love of a lot of women. And then you can have an automated plan where everything's going to be
[33:17]
automated for you. And we indicate you how to add foods all the way to an escalation of different
[33:23]
plans where you get more and more human human support in order to undo the imbalances inside
[33:31]
of your body that trigger migraines until your migraines just go silent. Your genes don't change,
[33:36]
but you get to know no pain. Does that make sense? Oh, it sure does. It sure does. So
[33:41]
definitely the first step is definitely learning, learning all those things that are, that are
[33:47]
impacting it or triggering the migraines. And then, yeah, I love that. I'm definitely going
[33:52]
to link your app here because yes, I do know that you have, I love that to the Migraine Heroes.
[33:59]
Is that an app or a podcast? Both. It's both. Okay. I thought you had a podcast as well. Okay.
[34:05]
Yeah. It started as a podcast because I was fascinated by the woman I was meeting. They
[34:12]
had lives I had never heard of because women who suffer from migraine disease, they will be
[34:18]
really good at faking that everything's fine. You can't see it physically unless you're very
[34:23]
close to them. And day to day, you can pick up really small nuances, but they will no longer
[34:28]
share it because they feel ashamed. They feel there's no solution. They feel bombarded with
[34:33]
ideas and suggestions from people who don't know and are well intended but don't know. And so they,
[34:39]
they, they really live in isolation. And, and so, and so I, I love to tell these stories that are
[34:47]
incredible. And so we talk about all of their life before, which is just nothing short of being a
[34:53]
warrior until, until they're able to learn. And, and I love that you say that they learn. That's
[35:00]
what we, we teach them, then they learn and they're like, Oh my God, you know, this is so special.
[35:05]
If I can read it. Oh, please. Yes. I was hoping you would have one story to share.
[35:12]
Yeah. It's a quote I just got this morning and it made my heart melt. And the woman says just
[35:17]
hello, once again, feeling a deep gratitude towards you all for doing the work that you are.
[35:22]
I never could have imagined I could live my life without constantly thinking about when the pain
[35:26]
would come or to have to come to terms with constant medication. Thanks. Thanks to you.
[35:32]
I'm living it and I can imagine it as a future. This makes so much sense to me. I've been really
[35:38]
enjoying digging into different literature about healing with foods and with sort of East and West
[35:43]
combination. And it was just this morning, it's gorgeous. And it's really the fuel that keeps me
[35:49]
going. You know, it's really the only, the only real reward, like the whole organization or the
[35:57]
way it's structured is doesn't have an intent to make profits. It has an intent to it's not a
[36:04]
charity. You know, I pay everyone that works with me, but the only goal, like the data is not given
[36:11]
to X, Y, Z for whatever purpose. It's the only intent is, you know what? It doesn't make sense.
[36:18]
People suffer. It's like what the fights that you bring, Melissa, every day to help people come back
[36:24]
and live the best life they can. And this is exactly what it's designed to do. Yeah.
[36:29]
That's exactly what we're designed to do. Right. To be here to help and to share our gifts. And
[36:34]
the rewards come. Yes. Yes. Yes. They just naturally do. And I totally, I get it. That is
[36:43]
the best feedback when we hear from people that have found success working with us. And there's
[36:49]
nothing better. Nothing better. Absolutely. And so for me, that's the example of a migraine
[36:54]
hero is like for 20 years, you medicate and you're like, oh my God, and you have hope and you pick
[36:58]
yourself up and it's hard, you know, people living in every single day pain, like losing everything
[37:04]
that is dear to their heart and their life. And yet the, you know, once more they knock on my
[37:10]
door and when they do, they have just no hope. And, and we debrief, I also do calls where we
[37:16]
debrief on their test together. And, you know, oftentimes they'll have tears. I encourage to
[37:20]
come with husbands. If you take the meeting after the test with partners, because I think the
[37:26]
partners, they also suffer in a very different way. You can have a lot of compassion and love.
[37:30]
Sure. Absolutely. That's, that is, that is so good. Yeah. Yeah. It's, um, it's healing for
[37:36]
everybody involved for sure. Yeah. Yeah. There's nothing worse than seeing somebody we love
[37:41]
suffer and to feel, you know, almost helpless, right. Yeah. Because we're not really in it
[37:47]
really, really good. So what about, can we talk foods? Yes, absolutely. You know, it's funny. I,
[37:56]
this is my own conception. Um, my only not conception kind of perception is, um, the role
[38:03]
of the mineral magnesium, because I know how relaxing and healing it is. And I've heard,
[38:10]
I've heard, and I've heard vitamin D is another, um, obviously that's a hormone, how they can help.
[38:15]
And I don't know if there's truth to this. It's things I've read, things I've kind of made with
[38:20]
my own thinking, knowing how powerful these minerals and, and vitamins are if they do play
[38:25]
a role. Absolutely. So there's a number of supplements and a number of minerals that have
[38:32]
been proven scientifically to help with quite robust and, you know, well-documented studies.
[38:38]
Magnesium is absolutely one of them. Um, and completely worth trying, of course, um, um,
[38:45]
you know, be mindful. What is really important is to be mindful that the type of magnesium that you,
[38:50]
um, take is one that you, um, tolerate. Uh, if the magnesium is giving you a more runny stool,
[38:58]
um, so like loose bowel movements, um, uh, that you need to wipe a lot probably does more harm
[39:05]
than good. It does some good, but it takes away along the way. So find, so a complete yes to
[39:12]
magnesium and find the type that your body digests, you know, um, that they just the best.
[39:18]
And that's quite personal. Um, there's also, you did mention vitamin D. Absolutely. That helps a
[39:24]
lot as well. Um, there's a couple of others. Uh, there's riboflavin, which is vitamin B2. Um,
[39:32]
there is as for some people, uh, vitamin B12, especially if you know, they're vegetarian.
[39:38]
Um, there's one that is really interesting. I like to take it from pollen. For example,
[39:41]
I find it's really nice to eat pollen. It's delicious. And, uh, it's a great source of B12.
[39:49]
Um, what else? There's a couple more. Um, yeah, it's going to come back to me. There's,
[39:55]
there's just a couple of, of, of supplements like that, that can help now because they're so
[40:01]
complicated. If the domino effect started to fall down, um, all of the, let's put it this way,
[40:08]
all of the people for whom I worked, they tried every single medication for most, and they've
[40:13]
tried all of the supplements for most. It still works if you manage to, to, you know, to, to,
[40:19]
to use it early. So try as early as you can. And if it works, stick with it until you feel
[40:25]
comfortable. And once your tank is full, you can stop it because sometimes you have, if you over
[40:30]
do it on something that helps, it can start to hinder. Does that make sense?
[40:36]
If your bucket is empty, fill your bucket. Once it's full, don't overflow it because then you
[40:42]
create something else that your body will then complain about.
[40:46]
So true. So true. Yes. Yes. Yes. That word balance that we throw out there that it's so
[40:51]
difficult to get, but, but it is all about paying attention to this, um, how your body's responding
[40:56]
to whatever sort of vitamin or supplements that you're adding in. That's a good point.
[41:01]
Yeah. Um, there's a couple, they're kind of come back to my mind.
[41:11]
Zinc. Do they try it wrong?
[41:16]
Less, um, I mean, iron, iron, uh, yes, no, it's true. Iron, if you're anemic
[41:24]
and by anemic, I actually want to push it much further. If you do not have enough blood volume
[41:31]
in your body, you will have more migraines. And let me explain how it works with common sense.
[41:38]
Let's imagine that for your body to be full, you need five liters of blood.
[41:42]
Yeah. Four to five liters. And let's imagine for some reasons, historical reasons, for example,
[41:46]
you had a copper IUD, you were bleeding a lot. You have super heavy menstruation. Um, you have,
[41:53]
um, come into childbirth, birth and lost a lot of blood. Um, or you donate your blood. You will
[42:00]
not have five liters. You have a bit less. And when you have a bit less, your brain starts to
[42:05]
be in competition with your digestive system. So now let's imagine I had that cheese, wine,
[42:09]
chocolates that I was referring to. Now my digestion process is going to consume a lot of the,
[42:15]
a lot of the blood. And so my brain might not be as irrigated. And so my brain is going to say,
[42:22]
if you do that and you take a tryptophan, the tryptophan is going to contract the blood vessel,
[42:26]
force the blood back into your brain. And you're going to feel without pain, but probably a bit
[42:33]
spacey because the blood sense back is a blood that is in the middle of digestion. And, um,
[42:38]
and so anemia will contribute to the difficulty of re-reproducing your blood volume.
[42:45]
Okay. And therefore it can completely contribute to migraines. If you have that,
[42:50]
you will see other symptoms creep into your life. You will see, um, a lot of sugar cravings,
[42:55]
your cravings before, um, yeah, which, you know, not good. Um, but still, you know,
[43:01]
sugar cravings before, um, menstruation, you know, when you're stressed or when you're really tired
[43:06]
with combined with quite a bit of the dry skin. And then that's how, you know, so an iron can in
[43:12]
that instance help. Yes. Um, there's a few other ones, uh, like coenzyme Q10, um, because it
[43:18]
improves cellular energy production. Um, uh, they're coming back to me, uh, Omega-3. Omega-3
[43:24]
is also great fat for the brain and we need fat for the brain. One that is sometimes recommended,
[43:31]
but I would not, I would wait for more science is melatonin. Um, because melatonin, um, even though,
[43:40]
um, it looks like a hormone is a synthetic hormone, um, from people who suffer from migraine
[43:47]
disease. I can see that, um, the way the body expels it is not so clear. It's very clear how
[43:54]
the melatonin enters the body. It's very clear what it does. It's not clear when it's done its
[44:00]
job, where does it go versus natural melatonin? My hypothesis is that ends up in large intestine
[44:08]
and creates a chronic form of inflammation that can create chronic constipation and chronic
[44:13]
dizziness. So if you find yourself very dizzy, yes. And I tend to trust people who suffer from
[44:19]
migraine disease a lot more because they have a firearm and the firearm says, none of that,
[44:25]
please don't do that again. Our inability sometimes to be able to listen to that,
[44:30]
but sometimes with your intuition, yeah, you have to find a way to fall asleep naturally.
[44:35]
Um, yeah. So that one is also said for my, uh, for migraines as a supplement,
[44:42]
I would say wait for more research. The other ones have many, many years of research that
[44:47]
confirm and confirm and confirm. Melatonin for me, if you have dizziness is something to
[44:53]
use with caution and discuss with your doctor again. Really good to know. That is really good
[44:57]
to know. You mentioned something that
[45:00]
just kind of sparked me when you mentioned omega-3s.
[45:03]
You know, this generation, my generation,
[45:06]
we grew up where it was fat-free.
[45:09]
Avoid the fat, fat would make you fat.
[45:11]
You know, that was the way we were taught.
[45:15]
That's the fear we had.
[45:18]
No longer, I mean, I can speak for myself,
[45:21]
and this is definitely when I encourage my clients
[45:23]
when I work with them, we need those healthy fats.
[45:25]
Omega-3 is one of the supplements that I recommend as well
[45:28]
just to get those omega.
[45:30]
Even if we've got a little bit of processed food
[45:32]
kind of sneaking in here and there,
[45:34]
it's always good to kind of have that extra omega-3.
[45:38]
A really good source is real important.
[45:40]
But that's interesting.
[45:42]
That's another connection that can be
[45:44]
kind of tied back to women.
[45:47]
And you know what I want to share is,
[45:50]
you know, because we were having such
[45:52]
really high rate of success,
[45:54]
and we look forward to put a board of doctors,
[45:56]
et cetera, on migraines.
[45:59]
I did a class of neuroscience at Harvard online
[46:02]
because I was trying to find, okay,
[46:03]
why is that working so well?
[46:05]
Like, how can I explain it back into,
[46:07]
like, East and West navigate
[46:09]
those two languages really well?
[46:11]
In Western science, we've discovered that,
[46:14]
I mean, we know for some time,
[46:15]
that for a neuron to go really fast,
[46:19]
you need to, it can either be really, really long,
[46:22]
but then it's not very practical
[46:23]
for a design perspective of the human anatomy.
[46:26]
So if you were having a really long neuron,
[46:28]
it would be essentially a worm
[46:30]
because that needs to be a straight line.
[46:32]
So for the body to have all of these small parts,
[46:34]
you have really small neurons,
[46:36]
but then you still need to transmit the information fast.
[46:40]
It's not like I can think that I'm going to move my arm
[46:42]
and then wait for 10 seconds and then it moves.
[46:44]
It needs to go a lot faster.
[46:46]
And the way to conduct that neuron is like with myelin,
[46:52]
and myelin is essentially animal fat
[46:55]
that wraps around the neuron to make it go faster.
[46:59]
So a big yes to that.
[47:01]
So yes, omega-3 is really, really important
[47:05]
No, I love learning.
[47:06]
I love it when things stack on top of each other.
[47:09]
The things that I talk about and try to do myself
[47:12]
and realizing that there's more benefits,
[47:14]
there's more reasons why.
[47:17]
So your treatments, and if you want to share,
[47:21]
if you have a success story that you want to share with us,
[47:24]
but sounds to me like whole food diet,
[47:27]
supplementing when it's needed,
[47:29]
but it really is about looking at the client, the patient,
[47:33]
and assessing where they are.
[47:34]
And there's obviously some eliminations going on
[47:38]
with their diet and their lifestyle,
[47:40]
and then adding things back in
[47:41]
that are going to more help supplement them.
[47:43]
It's very similar to coaching.
[47:44]
It's real interesting.
[47:45]
And I love this model
[47:46]
because it really is looking at the body, the person,
[47:50]
because we're so individual.
[47:52]
And I'm willing to bet that no two approaches have worked
[47:56]
for two different people, right?
[47:58]
Because you, right?
[48:00]
Yeah, I love that, yes.
[48:02]
It takes me, there's now three of us working,
[48:05]
and it takes me a year and a half to train a person,
[48:09]
a year and a half.
[48:10]
It's that complicated.
[48:13]
And so I try to, in the free version of the app
[48:16]
and automated, I try to give the biggest advice
[48:19]
that people can catch themselves fast.
[48:21]
If you catch yourself fast, if you just have, for example,
[48:24]
just quote, unquote, pre-menstruation migraine,
[48:28]
go on the app, track, solve it fast, as fast as you can.
[48:32]
Because the moment you're going to not listen to your body,
[48:35]
the moment you're going to break down more parts
[48:37]
in your body, the more it's going to be
[48:38]
a lot more complicated to help you.
[48:41]
It's always feasible.
[48:43]
I mean, I would say, yes, almost always feasible,
[48:46]
but it's a lot more complicated.
[48:49]
And I say almost because in the case of, for example,
[48:51]
a trauma, if someone has had massive abuse,
[48:55]
physical, mental abuse in childhood,
[48:58]
we know from the West that there's an alteration
[49:00]
of the vagus nerve.
[49:01]
And if there's an alteration of the vagus nerve,
[49:04]
the signaling from the body to the brain
[49:07]
needs help to be repaired.
[49:10]
It's equally, if not even more important
[49:12]
for someone like that, but it's,
[49:14]
it requires also polyvagal theory and help on that front.
[49:22]
Yes, so important.
[49:25]
Do you have a short example that you can share?
[49:29]
A patient that you've worked,
[49:30]
I would love to just hear a before and after.
[49:33]
Yeah, yeah, I'll give you a couple before and after.
[49:37]
One of the first woman I helped,
[49:40]
her name was Jessica, and still her heart is with me.
[49:42]
Jessica was having migraines every single day.
[49:45]
She had had a concussion and she was in pain
[49:49]
She had to stop her job.
[49:50]
She couldn't no longer focus more than 10 hours a week.
[49:55]
And within two months, she was on her feet.
[49:58]
Her dad cried and said, my girl, you're back.
[50:01]
This is a beautiful story of the podcast.
[50:03]
Another one, a lot more related to women
[50:05]
in this age category.
[50:07]
So Jessica was 27 when this happened.
[50:09]
This is a story of Wendy.
[50:10]
Wendy had twin sons and she was suffering
[50:13]
from migraine disease.
[50:14]
And whenever it would happen,
[50:15]
she would call her husband.
[50:17]
They had a code to say, you have to come back.
[50:19]
The twins are no longer safe with me.
[50:21]
I'm incapacitated, debilitated to the point,
[50:24]
my children, I can't supervise them.
[50:27]
And so she'd go in bed for three, four days
[50:30]
and the house would be silent.
[50:31]
And her husband, Patrick, who comes on the podcast as well,
[50:34]
we did the podcast strictly with him too,
[50:36]
to hear how does he feel.
[50:39]
The first time they were communicated,
[50:40]
he said, look, it was awful.
[50:43]
The house was silent.
[50:44]
The twin boys, they wanted their mom.
[50:46]
I had no answer to provide to them.
[50:48]
And I had all of the house chores,
[50:50]
plus my job, plus the boys.
[50:52]
It was really frustrating.
[50:54]
And I felt guilty.
[50:56]
I felt guilty I couldn't help her.
[50:58]
And she felt guilty.
[50:59]
And so the house would be dead silent.
[51:01]
And they went through that for 20 years.
[51:03]
And they said, we prayed so much.
[51:05]
We prayed to find an answer.
[51:06]
And we feel you're the answer to my prayers.
[51:08]
I needed my time to come.
[51:10]
I also had my life journey
[51:11]
that decided to push me in the best direction.
[51:16]
Or Samantha, I'll just mention that one last.
[51:18]
Samantha is a journalist.
[51:19]
She was having sort of headaches for her entire life,
[51:22]
but she was sort of not really paying attention.
[51:25]
And then when she hit perimenopause,
[51:27]
they became completely debilitating,
[51:30]
full-on vertigo, dizziness, incapacity to work.
[51:33]
She could no longer focus in front of a computer,
[51:36]
last for two or three years.
[51:39]
She was recommended to me a couple of times,
[51:40]
but she said, I've tried at least five neurologists
[51:42]
everywhere in the globe and no one's fixed this.
[51:45]
So I don't think she can.
[51:47]
But then a lot of people said, no, it happened for me
[51:50]
And so she came and she's like, I cannot believe it.
[51:53]
But yes, you pulled it off.
[51:56]
And so it's just another beautiful, beautiful story.
[52:01]
Like in her situation,
[52:04]
can you give us just some insight exactly
[52:08]
what did she do without, you know?
[52:13]
Without breaking the confidence of a patient relationship.
[52:17]
It's a bit related to what we were discussing before
[52:23]
is when you go through perimenopause,
[52:25]
your liver system is changing in nature.
[52:31]
And unless you find a way to make it work
[52:34]
and some of its substance,
[52:36]
life substance and its production is less and less.
[52:39]
And so women will recognize this
[52:41]
because they will start to suffer from, in general,
[52:47]
around perimenopause,
[52:48]
women will start to have a bit more dry bowel movements
[52:51]
like constipation chronically.
[52:54]
And when you think of your vagus nerve
[52:57]
and you're constipated,
[53:00]
your brain is also dehydrated,
[53:02]
but from like with a very deep level.
[53:05]
We call it dehydration in English.
[53:07]
I think there's a word missing.
[53:09]
We're not, we can call it de-fatted
[53:13]
or de-omega-3-ed or de, you know,
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it's that doesn't have that nurture, that moisture.
[53:21]
And so, you know, you have to fix some of that.
[53:26]
Yeah, that tend to be.
[53:28]
Yeah, so that was her root.
[53:29]
So that's where it was rooted for her.
[53:33]
And so that's why you see quite a lot in perimenopause
[53:36]
with women who have something called Meniere's disease,
[53:38]
vertigo, dizziness.
[53:40]
I also think something quite prevalent
[53:42]
with type 1 diabetes has to do with inner ear disorders.
[53:47]
I would still qualify in that same category
[53:49]
because you use the same methodology to solve for that
[53:53]
is where's the inner ear disorder coming from
[53:56]
and how may I fix it?
[54:00]
And this is where there's still a difference
[54:02]
between the East and the West.
[54:04]
In the West, we give a nutrient for its absolute,
[54:08]
you know, absolute nutrition value.
[54:11]
In the East, you look at where does the food go?
[54:16]
Like, if you take it, does it go in your ear canal
[54:19]
or does it go in your large intestine?
[54:21]
These are two very different destinations.
[54:24]
Does that make sense?
[54:26]
Wow, that's crazy.
[54:27]
Yeah, it is, it is.
[54:28]
I think, you know what, we have a long way to go still.
[54:32]
A lot of studying and researching, yeah.
[54:35]
Yeah, on the buddy mysteries, yeah.
[54:37]
Wow, you know, I appreciate,
[54:39]
I see how passionate you are about what you get to do
[54:44]
and I really appreciate you coming in
[54:45]
and sharing all this with all of us.
[54:48]
Is there a tip, maybe a quick tip that you can leave
[54:53]
so the ladies in our audience, our listeners
[54:55]
are generally type 1 and if this triggered some interest
[54:59]
in them and learning more, definitely going to send them
[55:03]
to your show as they can check out
[55:07]
on the Migraine Heroes app and the podcast.
[55:11]
But maybe a few things that they can kind of walk away with
[55:14]
to give them hope.
[55:15]
I know chances are they're here
[55:17]
because they have suffered from migraines
[55:19]
and they were hoping to learn the reason why,
[55:21]
but I think connecting with you
[55:23]
is gonna be their first step.
[55:25]
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
[55:28]
So there's a few, there's definitely one thing
[55:31]
that they can add.
[55:33]
I love adding, I don't like removing so much.
[55:35]
I mean, removing is important,
[55:36]
but it's nice to put the brain on what to do,
[55:40]
And there's an amazing infusion I do a lot
[55:43]
in that age category which can help
[55:46]
is a chamomile and goji berries infusion.
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Chamomile is a food and fever fluid in particular
[55:55]
that has been proven in 1985 in scientific articles
[55:59]
to be able to help with migraines.
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And it's been proven over and over again since then.
[56:05]
But in the study, this is really weird
[56:08]
when we give this to women,
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maybe 40% don't have migraines
[56:13]
or I can't remember the exact stats,
[56:14]
but they say a vast majority start to have diarrhea.
[56:17]
And the reason is because chamomile
[56:19]
is really cold in nature, quite cool,
[56:21]
just cooling the digestive tract.
[56:23]
So alone, it's not a great, great way to go.
[56:27]
You can go a chamomile alone if you have a lot of anger,
[56:32]
a lot of, your population would never go with that,
[56:37]
like a very toxic lifestyle or toxic relationship.
[56:41]
But if you pair it with goji berries,
[56:43]
the goji berries, they will warm the beverage
[56:48]
because they're neutral in temperature.
[56:50]
And they will also stimulate and detox the liver
[56:53]
while doing a few other things.
[56:54]
And so I find that a chamomile goji berries infusion
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at night is really wonderful.
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I will add a few buts.
[57:02]
Number one, rule number one is
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it's eight to 10 goji berries a day.
[57:06]
It's very, very potent as a food and you don't need more.
[57:10]
Again, we want to fill the bucket.
[57:11]
We don't want to overflow it.
[57:14]
The second thing is if you have,
[57:17]
if you, in addition to have type one diabetes,
[57:20]
you would have, I don't think you would have that,
[57:23]
but you're on a FODMAP diet for IBS.
[57:25]
I don't think it would be a situation
[57:27]
that we will encounter, but okay, let's not exclude it.
[57:30]
Then this beverage would make you bloated
[57:33]
because it contains fructan.
[57:35]
If it's the case, if it makes you bloated,
[57:37]
anything that makes you bloated, don't push it.
[57:40]
Okay, your body's saying no.
[57:43]
So if you're on a FODMAP diet, if you are pregnant,
[57:46]
I wouldn't recommend chamomile in particular.
[57:49]
Goji berries are fine.
[57:50]
Then you just do the goji berries alone.
[57:53]
And that's it really for the contraindications
[57:58]
of pregnancy and IBS FODMAP diet.
[58:01]
Okay, really good.
[58:03]
That's a fun tidbit.
[58:05]
So, and just to clarify, you said chamomile.
[58:10]
Okay, I wanted to make sure.
[58:11]
Okay, I know that's what I said,
[58:13]
but I wanted to clarify, because we are very familiar.
[58:16]
I mean, I do like a chamomile tea.
[58:18]
I actually, I like a chamomile lavender at night sometimes,
[58:21]
but the goji, I definitely understand the goji.
[58:25]
You hear a little bit about it,
[58:26]
but I like that you've given us a little bit more weight
[58:30]
on using goji berries.
[58:31]
But like you say, don't overdo, right?
[58:35]
Yeah, don't overdo it.
[58:36]
Yeah, less is more.
[58:37]
And yeah, just seeing how your body responds first.
[58:40]
So those are interesting tips, really good.
[58:42]
And of course, they can find out more
[58:44]
when they connect with you on your app.
[58:48]
And well, thank you so much, Diane, for being here today.
[58:52]
You are a world of information.
[58:54]
Yes, and we'll be sure to link all of your information
[58:57]
right here in the show notes.
[58:59]
People can reach out, learn more, ask questions,
[59:02]
and connect with you on your app.
[59:04]
Yeah, we're really here to help.
[59:06]
It's awful to live a life like that.
[59:08]
And for anyone, we've helped even people
[59:11]
who are 78 years old.
[59:12]
It's still 100% of your life.
[59:16]
Never to let it feel good.
[59:18]
You know, I want to go back to what you were saying
[59:19]
at the beginning, which is you are not born
[59:21]
to lead a life in pain.
[59:24]
That's not what you're meant to be doing.
[59:26]
That's right, I totally agree.
[59:28]
Well, thanks again.
[59:30]
And we appreciate, and please share this show.
[59:32]
Chances are, listeners here,
[59:35]
whether or not you have experienced
[59:37]
or are currently experiencing migraines,
[59:39]
you know somebody who is.
[59:42]
So please share the show.
[59:44]
Share Diane with them.
[59:46]
And yeah, be well.
[59:48]
And we'll be back in here next week.
[59:58]
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[60:01]
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[60:05]
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[60:35]
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