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hello hello hello so before i go into today's episode we have some brilliant news that the
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not to so if you want to join the female files program starting on the monday the 9th of september
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click on the link in the show notes and get your space on the waiting list now hello hello hello
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and welcome to the next episode of the shame world podcast so today's episode is on a topic that is
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impacts a lot of people can impact a lot of people and does impact a lot of people and it's
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the topic of migraines so i had the pleasure of chatting with dianne ducarme about migraines and
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a lot of different elements of it what particularly what a migraine is because i think sometimes that
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definition can be a little bit off how common is migraine disease what background is different from
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the migraine field how did she get into this is exercise a useful relief or is an actual trigger
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for migraines do other health health issues like weight gain or pcos or endometriosis correlate with
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migraines some tips and really useful tips on how to manage migraines and then some really really
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useful advice towards the end of it who for those who suffer from migraine so i hope you enjoy the
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episode with dianne it was really really interesting to kind of have a chat and sit down with her
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and i know dianne has been wanting to come onto the podcast for a long time so if you put in dianne's
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social media i'll put in her website and stuff that if you're interested in working with her
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but hopefully you enjoy today's episode on migraines so before i go into today's episode i
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it diane how are we excellent thank you so much for coming on all the way from new zealand it's
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pretty cool to have people from all over the world coming on and stuff so thank you so much
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um so for anyone who isn't aware of who you are and what you do can you give us a little bit of a
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background so my name is diane and i take care of people who suffer from migraine disease
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and i'm from belgium this is where the french accent comes from um i'm a mother of two and uh
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yes for a living i help women men and children who suffer from migraine disease for five ten
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twenty thirty forty years um and um change your life like you change theirs
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and how did you get into this field because it's uh i know it impacts an awful lot of people but
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how did you get into this field oh it's very unusual actually my background is completely
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in business i um i worked in as a consultant and i i uh i studied at harvard business school so
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unrelated but i had a skiing accident when i was 17 and i broke my femur i shrunk a kidney and i
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lost half of my blood and so my body was completely decomposed and it was in france 2001 and they
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decided to not transfuse me blood because they had problems with contaminated blood that had
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just made the headlines so they did not have enough anyway so they said look she's borderline
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but she'll survive let's just keep her that way except i was a chronic anemic child and so my
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body got completely limping for 12 years i would go and nap you know from 2 p.m to 8 a.m the next
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day and life has just gotten really really hard i put on a lot of weight that you know compromise
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my relationship to food quite a lot which was healthy until then i went to a bit of yo-yo but
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i was just completely out of balance and um and then after living in the u.s for three years which
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you know doesn't make it easy when you have sort of um like food imbalances um i went to live in
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china in shanghai and i was taking traditional chinese medicine classes on on on saturdays
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and um and i i thought my doctor was a bit average you know she you know you'd ask her
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a question and she would answer it depends so i thought oh let me just you know either like it
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or stop it i'm just gonna go and see her for myself and she transformed my body like just
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back to where it was when i was 17 with just foods in just three weeks and i thought oh my god
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my colleagues told me it was placebo i knew there was some stuff like my cycles were back to normal
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i was like there's no way i can command that from my brain i've tried you know this doesn't
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work that way or it didn't work that way for me and um and later my sister told me she was having
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migraines um and it was at a time my uncle had died of a glioblastoma which is the most violent
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form of brain tumor when we discovered it was th4 and he left four children behind it was just a
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really really hard time as a family he was also my godfather and so when my sister said i suffer
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from migraines and i think i have the same um i took it very seriously and i really listened to
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her because i thought wow she must be anxious she has three kids herself and it's probably not that
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but it's probably also not nothing you don't do three mri in a row if you feel healthy so i said
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to her look i think i know someone who can help let's write down all of your symptoms and we're
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gonna fix this i know someone and so we organized a teleconference with my chinese doctor and within
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three to four months she was done with her migraines and i didn't think much of it i thought
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yeah she had an imbalance it's done and i went back to living my normal life um until another
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friend of mine who is the daughter of a neurologist based in new york tells me i've had this really
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confrontational conversation with my dad and like what was that about but after seven years of
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migraines my dad um asks me to get medicated for life including having injections and i thought oh
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that sounds really unreasonable or i understand you feel this is a bit overwhelming um you've
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lived in china um i can talk to that doctor you know between we chat whatsapp i'm sure i can
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you know find you a few foods you can try that and then if that doesn't work you still have 49.5
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years to medicate and she said oh thank you so much for taking the time to do that and so
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on weekend evening i did quite a bit of research i contacted the doctor and three to four months
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after my friends no longer had migraines and i really thought oh no that's weird like why would
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it be that case and so i've discovered after that all of the stuff i'm about to share with you today
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which is um immense and crazy i mean crazy it's uh immense it's a huge world is what i
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mean a huge world of pain um that lives really behind curtains of society and it's a lot more
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common than people realize yes it is especially for women it's one in five women yeah that's a
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big old start that is a big um so i think we need to start back right at the basics
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and we'll work our way through it so can you explain exactly what a migraine is
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um yeah is it more than a headache or is there a lot more complex elements to it
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yeah it is definitely absolutely more than a headache so migraine disease is a genetic
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predisposition um because it's genetic it's five percent of boys and girls and the incidence is
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going to triple to quadruple as of puberty for women okay and so it's one in 20 men one in five
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women even though it's genetic so this is where western science you know it's you know has has
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limitations on explaining why there's that 13 gap because they say 13 does not justify the number of
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hormonal migraine and so when you have migraine you have what is called migraine attacks and an
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attack is a full body experience that usually but not always will involve head pain massive pain
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think unterminable hangover or labor type of pain together with a lot of other symptoms
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such as can be nausea can be vomiting can also be um sensitivity to light passing dots prisms
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losing the complete eyesight um having a sensitivity to smell having numbness in the arms
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and the legs and the hands having trembling sensation cramps spasms having the body go
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half completely paralyzed um and can come with the idea of feeling you know not having
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wanting to do anything not feeling great feeling very foggy very cloudy and so this attack is
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going to last anywhere on paper between three hours to three days in practice can start one day
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and never end and so the journey to and out of migraine will be extremely different person by
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person but it will be extremely hard and will require immense resilience from that human being
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and do you have like real-life examples of some of the migraine attacks that people can
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have and how much of it hasn't had an impact on their life obviously it's going to be
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person dependent and symptom dependent and stuff but you've got real-life examples
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yeah absolutely i'll tell you a couple of stories for example you think the story of jade um and
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maybe some people can identify to her um jade would have migraine attacks extremely severe she
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would lose her eyesight fall down and be half paralyzed and because her parents never had
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migraines themselves it took a while before they could diagnose what it is because it looks
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more like a stroke than a migraine attack and so they would call the ambulance she would be
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sent to emergency services so this happened in her case three times and then they would give
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her the highest dose of morphine um to then wake up three days later with a you have migraine
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and she would be like okay there has to be more explanation no no go back home what do i do yeah
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just stay hydrated it's not too stressed live well you see a neurologist and so it's really
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confrontational um and so for her in her case that led to losing her job for example um um you can
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have the case of for example samantha samantha had headache her whole life but then as a fear
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menopause and menopause you started to have what is called more like many years disease
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like a lot of dizziness vertigo that can becomes daily and she was a journalist and so being you
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know unable to actually see a screen and process information and therefore not feeling completely
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incapacitated and so going from a pain that she would sort of manage through life to something
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that would completely take over and control her life um then you have some people who will have
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a traumatic brain injury um and um they're gonna they may have had a few headaches before but after
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the traumatic brain injury they're in pain constant like the pain just does not move it's
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there every single day and these individuals will have to live in a room closed um and just be in
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pain every day and they will usually see a lot of doctors the financial burden is going to be
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really massive um and they're you know they're completely dependent or you can have some people
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that start with a few imbalances a bit of you know headaches when they're young throwing up
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proper migraines when they're teenagers or when they have
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by stress and then we'll medicate and over the years those migraines um will become more and
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more and take away more and more of their life and of their livelihood how common is migraine
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disease because it's i wouldn't exactly say it's put on through like on advertisements and stuff
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on how to symptoms and stuff it wouldn't be necessarily on tv or newspapers or articles and
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stuff if you went obviously if you went typed in migraine disease into google you'll be brought
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down a massive rabbit hole and you could find yourself in a cesspit how common is it yeah it's
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actually very common so it's uh the stats say it's 18 percent and recently after covid um
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uh the latest scientific papers say it's more around 21 22 percent in the u.s of women
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now it is hidden but you can see it if you actually do the exercise chain of going on facebook and you
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just type migraine you will see thousands of groups and if you join one of these groups you
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will see walls and walls and walls of pain people talking to each other just about the level of pain
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they're in and how they're trying to cope and so they will the the problem is and now that we've
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talked about this you will see it a lot more because you will hear people say oh i'm gonna
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go home i have a migraine the problem is migraine is a complete invisible disease so they look
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absolutely fine they might look absolutely gorgeous like they you know and and they may
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not even look in pain um but inside they're in experimenting you know excruciating pain and so
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you really see it on facebook the most like it's very visible like this is where you you see those
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walls of pain but otherwise no in society i had a lot of friends before i took care of that friend
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who was the daughter of a neurologist a lot of friends had mentioned it and i don't get me wrong
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i have empathy but i heard i have a headache because that's the only thing empathy is the
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ability to be relating to the other's pain and this is unrelatable unless you know what it is
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so i would always think they mentioned i have a headache i'm going to go home but they were having
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a migraine attack starting so meaning they would have um prodrome symptoms like they would start
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to lose their eyesight and this is when they know they need to quickly go in a safe place
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because they need to rest and be in a dark room um and and so it's it's when i saw that so after
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after that that friend i thought 18 but i must have friends who have and then i started to
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remember all of these past conversations where it's not that i lacked empathy or like listening
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it's just that i didn't understand what they were actually meaning and i called back my friends and
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i would you still have them it's like yeah more than ever and i'm like well first of all i'm so
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sorry for i've never been dismissive but for not acknowledging that level of pain you're going
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through and then second well i think i've you know made a discovery what are some of the major
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triggers that people can have in relation to migraines is there is there a hormonal thing
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is it a stress thing is that a lifestyle thing or kind of just come on for no apparent reason
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all of the above so so women will usually keep a diary as you know because i love you're like
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a woman expert like you you understand woman's brain and you know i've seen you in interviews
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you know how a man's body and a female's body are different you also equally know just the body is
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not enough you have to trade the brain and you know how their brain is different so a woman will
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a woman will to stay the obvious follow a cycle but what happens is that her body inside is going
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to prioritize different things throughout the cycle and so that's what makes the tracking
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very confusing and the triggers super confusing so she's gonna think intuitively i always have
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them before my menstruation pms but when i look at my data when i went to the doctor i was kind of
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oh my god that just doesn't i say something that is not true on paper it's not factual but it is
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i'm pretty sure and the problem is that because the body changes at all times the triggers sort
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of the trigger threshold changes and so the main triggers the main groups of triggers will be
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all of the things that excite the liver and intoxicated such as alcohol that will be the
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main trigger woman will talk about or the first one they will notice for some coffee although
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sometimes it can relieve migraines as well um for some medication actually um it's called rebound
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migraines or medication overuse headaches which is when the woman because in pain takes a painkiller
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which then triggers more pain because of the toxicity on the liver so that's quite documented
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in western science can be all of the things that have to do with stress so just stress from the
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job stress etc but the more she's stressed the more she's stressed also having a migraine attack
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will create anxiety so when she's not in pain she might think of oh my god what if the pain comes
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back um so stress is like a whole a whole factor then there are some some foods that can be
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triggers like um um yeah some food sometimes like you know coffee can be one um spicy food sometimes
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can be some or and then allergens like pollen and stuff like that will be one too so it's different
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types of triggers can also be like a massive fight with someone like being you know a very
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negative emotion which through the vagus nerve is going to impact more organs and
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um trigger migraine and is there a certain stage of life where people can be more
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or kind of have a higher predisposition to migraines yeah absolutely so in childhood
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it's quite rare it's only five percent of boys and girls and so it's only five percent of girls
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it's it's quite uncommon this is usually science believes it's um it's um it's when the genetic
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predisposition which is 1 to 40 gene loci is slightly more and so the body is slightly more
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receptive to imbalances um and around period menopause and menopause is actually interesting
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it's not this there aren't many stats on that but it's going to change for some women they're
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going to go from a lot of migraines to no migraines for some they're going to go some
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from some types of migraines to other types of migraines and for some they're going to go to
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almost nothing to everything and so it's going to change again um but i think statistically is
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slightly less than one in five but i have even met women who will do a hysterectomy in the hope
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to get rid of the migraines and that won't work and so they feel very desperate because it has
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worked for our menopause has come with the joy of you know of no migraine and they they hope they
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will be in that category but that's that's um that is not always the case and what are some of
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the things that people can reach for or do or practical things that they can do to reduce the
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chances or reduce the symptoms of migraines that they are getting at the minute yeah um so this is
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where it's going to be very hard and so on social media people will find lots of great information
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and and people who suffer will help people who suffer with tremendous empathy um there are lots
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of small things like people will refer to soaking your your your feet in hot water doing meditation
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and diaphragmatic breathing going for a walk exercising for some sweating is going to help
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for some it's going to it's going to accentuate um um you know like uh avoiding triggers um trying
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to you know stay zen you know taking a job that is less demanding so there's a few things that
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people can do but it's a bit like it's a maze and so when the maze starts it's still quite simple
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but the more the person tries to frenetically go out of the maze the more it can sometimes
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be complex so by trying to find or trying to so many solutions at the same time um sometimes
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the whole system becomes even more complex if that makes sense i don't know if that makes sense
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especially if they're type a you know you talk in uh your interviews on good enough is better
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than giving up and i love good enough i think when sometimes are really type a and they do
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everything to perfection which you talk about as well they send themselves through the wall
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and you see that a lot with migraine so if it's a type of woman who has a really terrific job um
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and she's going to go like okay i'm going to go to the best neurologist take the best herbs
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and i'm going to do this this is that and then suddenly the body's completely overwhelmed and
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she might she might reach a point where she feels there's no return um so um trying to not make
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abrupt movements trying to listen and trying to be very very very intuitive that's the best thing
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you can do is listen to yourself and yes taking other opinions of course you need to go i highly
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respect doctors and it's really important to uh get your diagnostic confirmed do the mri if you
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need to do the mi etc like really follow protocol but if nothing works for you and you're told you
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just have migraines and you have to do lifestyle changes then really relying on your intuition to
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unpeel your migraines like an onion layer by layer because what will work for some will not
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necessarily work for you and if say coming from the other side of it say if your partner is someone
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who suffers with migraines how can that person be kind of compassionate how can that person
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support that person that is suffering with the migraines because that is an important piece
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that is a great question it's a it's such a huge um burden on families usually the emotions that are
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going to happen just to describe this the situation first is um the woman she's going to
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have a massive sense of guilt because when she's in a migraine attack which comes recurringly first
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of all no one sees anything but then she can't attend and love her family members the way she
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would like to she would like to make the dinner she would like to put the kids in bed but she's
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probably incapacitated to do so and she needs to go in a dark room and rest
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and sometimes for a couple of days in a row which is going to put a really dark atmosphere in the
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home a really tough atmosphere because the children know they can't go anywhere mom
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and for the husband or for the spouse it's going to be very hard because it's on the one hand they
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see their spouse suffer but on the other they also have that sense of frustration of oh my god i've
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been working all day and now i have to then prepare dinner etc because my other half is in
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bed ah you know like this is not the day i was expecting and it's fine when it's a couple of
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times when one year two years three years four years five years it's a it's a it puts a huge
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strain on couples and on families um it's really heartbreaking yeah it's going to put also financial
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stress because only one can sometimes provide and in addition to providing financially needs to
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provide logistically yeah and i know one of the things you kind of mentioned just before we came
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on air was the element of exercise in relation to uh is it a trigger or is it a relief for symptoms
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on a particular type of exercise that is better for for managing it yeah so so um so let's
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completely get into that um um so sometimes it's a relief so if you would have um and we'll talk a
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bit about the vagus nerve and the gut brain axis if you um if you have an excess what i would
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qualify if you have excess migraine so they're more pms like they come from too much toxins you
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tend to anger easily um or contain the anger it's inside but it's inside of you you're boiling hot
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then sweating and releasing toxins is going to help but if you're more afraid always cold and
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you tend to have your migraines after your menstruation or the second half of um your
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menstruation um onwards um and you're very weak then probably sweating you're lacking your tank
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is quite empty sweating is not going to be the right fit for you but more doing um a bit of
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resistance muscling up like firming up reinforcing gently your metabolism but not not uh not doing
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too much cardio um yeah and so and for some people they will wake up with a migraine so for some
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people they're going to wake up every single day um um with a migraine and i i understand that that
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all of what i'm saying feels really weird because it's almost i'm talking about a parallel world
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i can promise you your audience will highly resonate with that parallel world but it is a bit
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of a like it's like when you discover esports for the first time or if we were discovering life on
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mars um because it is a bit life on life on venus um um uh the the dark side of of life on venus
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maybe um then um yeah then then it then some people will wake up every single day with a migraine so
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for example every day they're going to wake up at 4 or 5 a.m with a right side migraine every single
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day and so in that case sometimes movement can help so it's you know like you can it's not
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necessarily they have to go on the training and run for a long time but they can do gentle exercise
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um in the morning and that a sort of a morning routine um it might help them
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okay um and you can go down a very big rabbit hole when you look at managing migraines and
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managing pms in particular are there any supplements that people need to watch out for
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as a positive that could help or is there any supplements that people can need to watch out for
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as a negative towards migraines so um yeah there are there's quite a lot of um scientific research
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that has been done on supplements and there's a couple that have been uh proven quote-unquote
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for people quote-unquote in general right to help so if it if it resonates with you and it works
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great if it doesn't let go of it there's no point in taking too many supplements um but for example
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magnesium is one that you know comes back a lot um riboflavin is another one omega-3 is a third one
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um sometimes prebiotics probiotics um and feverfew and so these are a couple that over the years
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have been proven in sufficient parts of the population to say hey this seems to move the needle
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um in practice i personally find that the gut brain axis is a lot more sophisticated than
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than than that a lot more and this would scratch the surface and if it helps i think that's
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terrific but as women will feel themselves there's something really intricate and complex going on
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in my body and it feels the systems are breaking down like a domino effect and i don't know where
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to start and i don't know where to finish it just feels very confusing and very invasive
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yeah yeah and so i want to talk about so i want to talk it in in terms of sport for example
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because i think it's going to really let's think about someone super healthy right
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um they have that uh how do you call that the brain to muscle connection
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yeah so i think i'm really focused on my session with shane i think about my my buttocks or my
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my um quadriceps and i do the exercise you're asking me to do and i'm really focused in that
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moment and you know that if i'm thinking about those muscles i'm going to grow them faster
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okay so that's the power of your brain linked to your you know through your vagus nerve right
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like how your muscles so the vegan i love to think about the vagus nerve as a massive tree
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that's going to plant its roots around uh your small and large intestine around um your kidney
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around your liver around your heart around your lungs and then all of these small roots um gather
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the hundred billion nerve cells of your body and then become a bigger root along your spine
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a trunk in your neck and then something quite frustrating happens it plugs in like a test
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in your brain and so from a western perspective we kind of um have difficulties because we can't
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visualize where exactly the vagus nerve goes in all parts of the brain because the brain is so
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mushy yeah so it's hard to see where the liver system goes and the kidney system goes but um
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but we do know we do know how that is bi-directional and we do know how with the
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brain we can command um the muscles and the organs to do some things and the more we reinforce that
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connection the more sharp and the more we wake up bright and the more we breathe well and the more
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the women that you work with are fit and healthy so think about the exact opposite think about a
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vagus nerve that is a tree that whose connections got loose because of life events or because of
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things that happened if the when a woman comes to you and she's like that if she has a genetic
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predisposition for migraine she's likely going to have pain like that and as you work with her
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yeah i would think her vagus nerve would be a lot better and like her mental health would be a lot
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stronger if that makes sense no it makes sense and makes sense um i think like the that gut brain
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axis piece that you mentioned there and earlier on it's coming up an awful lot more in everything
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that happens to us we don't know enough about the gut at the minute even with the the obesity drugs
[34:51]
that are kind of coming out they are targeting the gut receptors but there's new ones being
[34:55]
developed for each gut receptor and i think they've got three now i had i had johan harry on
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talking about it and then we had um lorraine cooney coming on to talk about constipation and
[35:06]
stuff and she was talking about the gut brain axis so it's coming up more and more and there
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is a british book the gut brain axis as well but it can be a little bit overwhelming if you're coming
[35:14]
from a non-background in that it's a little bit more yeah but it is very good to kind of learn
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about it yeah and i find so i i love to go west because we have so many things that we're able to
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prove it's quite phenomenal we're able to prove a bi-directional relationship between the gut and
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the brain it's exceptional we can prove the genetic presence of migraines um but at the
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same time the west is always rewarded for disease and so you pay your doctor as long as you're sick
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if you look at traditional chinese medicine you would pay your doctor as long as you're healthy
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so let's imagine um in front of someone who's 40 started to have migraines when she was 12 she
[35:53]
would have stopped being her doctor at 12 until the migraines were fixed so the motivation and the
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rewards very different and so the tackle of the imbalance is much earlier and so the gut brain
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axis is a huge component of those more ancestral methods that's why in what i do i combine both
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then you can transform the gut brain axis and so for example one of the things i do and i see in my
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work i i work um with a a nap i've put together and then i track the bowel movement that because
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you were mentioning it constipation like as long as she's constipated that brain is not going to
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be happy because the vagus nerve is tramping its roots around the bowels and is not irrigated enough
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therefore the leaves of the tree the brain are not irrigated enough either and you see that
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statistically when well i mean it's almost like everyone as the bowel movement comes in order the
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bloating goes the distension of the belly area goes the digestion gets better and the brain gets
[36:57]
much happier i was doing a podcast yesterday with a couple um their name are will and jennifer and
[37:05]
it was so cute and he said oh my my wife you know is like you know entering new pants and she's like
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quite out there and socializing and going out um and it's it's it's it's when when you make
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that connection and again which there are many ways to get to that connection you know you can
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use the mind you can use the exercise you can use the food they will you know move in a similar
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direction what you can't do is i mean oh yeah is maybe sit in your sofa and uh and think that if
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you if you if you take a couple of pills like it's it's it's gonna it's gonna work it's it's
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likely you know probably not if you watch the whole movie yeah makes sense um there are other
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things that kind of kind of impacted as well and i think there's more research being put into
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the elements of like pcos and endometriosis and stuff and i think a lot more people are getting
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diagnosed with the narrative not knowing what the hell's going on can feel like misunderstood
[38:10]
loss in the system all these kind of different things do other health issues like pcos and
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endometriosis do they correlate with migraines and the can can there be links with it completely
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100 you're completely on it uh the comorbidities are huge so there's a huge comorbidity the biggest
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one is with a depression anxiety um and then i would say if the person has a genetic predisposition
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for migraines together with endo or delayed fertility or pcos or something like that she
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will have migraines and so depending on the problem that is the loudest she might go either
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to the neurologist or the gynecologist but these are two ends of the same problems do you see what
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i mean it's it's the it's the pain the inflammation um uh that is in that you know for example around
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the endometrium that is so let's go back to that that constipation and let's imagine we have really
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poor gastric juices and when we eat um the food goes down but it goes on undigested then it's
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going to come become really phlegmy a really bad microbiome that microbiome might permeate through
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the lining of the small and large intestine around the endometrium which is going to give
[39:30]
the endometriosis and um and the the biggest nerve which is around that area is going to have its
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roots in that inflammation part all the way to the brain so if the person has a genetic predisposition
[39:46]
for migraines the fire alarm of their body their natural fire alarm is going to go on and the moment
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that um mucus is getting out of the body which is feasible using foods like that you get that out
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not maybe entirely but substantially in the way that it's no longer a problem
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that the the mucus will come out through the vagina in vaginal discharge um that will be very
[40:13]
visible and will correlate with less um less um yeah pain in the brain yeah and so a woman will
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see oh i i see i see what you know i i can it's not that i'm reading a scientific paper and i'm
[40:28]
seeing percentages and numbers is that i can eat a certain food i can visibly see a discharge and i
[40:34]
can visibly feel my brain being happier and more content and the pain in menstruation much less
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it's quite fascinating the woman is a complex system
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and you have to say the least but they're very likable we love them um yeah complex creation
[40:56]
complex but individual i think that's what makes it brilliant that's what makes it interesting for
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me as a practitioner and yeah that not there may be overlap with certain things that people do
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but every single person is individual and how they respond and what their coping mechanism is so
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yeah there's overlap but every single person's individual and if you could give one piece of
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advice to whoever's listening to the podcast who suffers with the migraine at any stage or
[41:27]
any walk of life what would that main advice be it would relate to back to the intuition
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this is really hard okay but you're not born in pain and you don't have to live your life in pain
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um and so try to go back to when did it start how did it start what changes did you make at
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the time it started and could you try to undo that change when you eat something can you try
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it is it is it helping or is it believing look at look much beyond your migraines when you do that
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look at your symptoms and so use all of those clues because fundamentally in past society
[42:10]
women with migraines they would predict the weather they would be able to see if it's going
[42:13]
to rain because they if they have you know migraines with changing um changing atmosphere
[42:22]
pressure they they can say when the pressure changes um they would also be able to predict
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if foods were good or you know not good anymore um and so they were protective of society so
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use that intuition i think um if anything migraine is a longevity genetics
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and mother nature didn't decide oh a fifth of the women that could use 100 of the children
[42:47]
let's make them all cuckoo no that doesn't make sense um if you know so many women that exhibit
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that genetic pattern exist today it's because it's a protective for society longevity genetic
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that allows you to constantly be challenged by your body to force you to live in balance
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and when you're out of that balance force you back into that balance so listen and trust
[43:12]
trust yourself people will make you doubt yourself but trust yourself
[43:17]
and you mentioned there about the doubting yourself and the kind of questioning yourself
[43:20]
if you're feeling that you're not necessarily heard from your gp your doctor practitioners
[43:28]
how can what method or what way can you kind of fight your corner a little bit more until you do
[43:36]
get hurt yeah it's uh look it's difficult for gps as well because it's technically i was listening
[43:43]
today to a neurologist busy in new york and he says look it's one hour of the curriculum
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right okay because because we don't have much and so it's no more that in medications that
[43:54]
have been invented for migraines were invented for another disease in the first place so for
[43:58]
example triptans were for cardiovascular problems um and so it's normal that you can't expect
[44:03]
everyone to to to do and know everything what i would candidly encourage is um there's a free
[44:10]
test online that you can take um uh with 97 questions on all of the symptoms outside of
[44:16]
migraines um on my website which is mynectarhealth.com you can take that test and then meet
[44:22]
with me it's fairly used other to meet just because you know i have to charge for that i
[44:27]
can't you know have people not show up but this is to have a conversation to understand okay what
[44:32]
are your migraines what do they mean where they come from what are the imbalances that are deeply
[44:37]
rooted um and just that usually will be a moment where a lot of women will actually you know you
[44:45]
don't cry a little bit because they're like oh my god i'm actually making sense i actually
[44:49]
understand and when you do that by the way i strongly encourage you to come with your partner
[44:53]
absolutely partners love to hear and understand um and being part of the
[45:00]
because they're the first in line after you to benefit.
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Yeah, sure. Thank you so much for all that information. Where can people find out about
[45:12]
you on socials? Where can people work with you? And I know you mentioned the consultations and
[45:16]
stuff. Where can people find out all that information?
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So the website is MyNectarHealth.com. And then I also have actually a podcast,
[45:25]
which is called Migraine Heroes. And on Migraine Heroes are women that come and
[45:32]
they tell their entire story, not because I pay them, not because they are social media stars,
[45:40]
but just because they say, look, I've suffered for 10, 20, 30, 40 years, and it's been hell,
[45:45]
and I don't wish it to my enemy. And if this can help one person, then it was worth
[45:51]
all the time in the world. And so I strongly encourage you to listen to the stories, or
[45:56]
if you type my name on Spotify, you'll find me on lots of podcasts. If you want to
[46:00]
understand things from different angles, from a PCOS angle, from a menopause angle, etc.
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Brilliant. Thank you so much for coming on and sharing that brilliant story. Thank you.
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And thank you, Shane, for all the work you do for women.
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Thank you. So before I go into today's episode, I just want to give you a quick little update
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