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3 Major reasons why “Healthy” People Still Get Migraine
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3 Major reasons why “Healthy” People Still Get Migraine

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You eat well, exercise, drink water, and try to “do everything right”… so why are migraines still happening?

In this episode of The Migraine Heroes Podcast, host Diane Ducarme explores why even people with healthy lifestyles can still struggle with chronic migraines. Sometimes the issue isn’t a lack of effort—it’s that your body, brain, and environment may need a completely different perspective.

You’ll discover: 💡 Why you may not be missing effort—but missing a different perspective on migraine healing 💡 Why what looks “healthy” isn’t always what your body can truly process or benefit from 💡 How some of the biggest migraine triggers may come from the environment and lifestyle surrounding you every day 

This episode blends neuroscience, lifestyle medicine, and holistic wisdom to help you rethink what true clarity and balance may look like for your nervous system. 

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References:

  • The Blue Zones (Buettner): This book explores the lifestyle patterns of the world’s longest-living populations, emphasizing natural movement, social connection, purpose, and consistent daily habits over intense performance-driven routines. Explore more here.
  • The Mind-Gut Connection (Mayer, 2018): This book explores the relationship between the gut, brain, and nervous system, including the role of the vagus nerve, digestion, stress, and emotional regulation in overall health. Read more here.

Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not substitute for providing medical advice. Always consult your healthcare professional before making any health-related decisions. For women, men, and children who suffer from migraine disease, Migraine Heroes is your go-to resource for understanding, managing, and overcoming migraine attacks. We cover all types of migraines and related headaches, including primary and secondary migraines, chronic migraines, and cluster migraines. We dive deep into the complexities of migraine with aura and migraine without aura, as well as rarer forms like hemiplegic migraine, retinal migraine, and acephalgic migraine (silent migraine). Our discussions also extend to cervicogenic headaches, ice pick headaches, and pressure headaches, which often mimic migraine or contribute to overall migraine burden.

Transcript

[00:00]

You're doing everything right. So why does your system still tip into migraine over and over again?

[00:09]

Welcome to Migraine Heroes, a podcast for people living with chronic migraines with years of pain,

[00:15]

misunderstanding and lack of answers. I'm Diane Ducarme. I've helped more than a thousand people

[00:21]

reduce the burden of migraines and feel more in control. My mission in life? To help a million

[00:28]

people. Each episode brings you grounded insight into what your body might be asking for and what

[00:34]

can truly help. Just to keep you fully supported, this podcast is educational. For diagnosis or

[00:42]

medication, always work with your doctor. Now take a breath and let's dive in.

[00:49]

In this episode, you will learn that maybe you're not missing effort, but you might be missing perspective.

[01:01]

What looks healthy isn't always what your body can truly use, and that sometimes the biggest

[01:08]

triggers aren't what you do, but what you live in. Stay with me till the end, because at the end of

[01:14]

this episode, you will have more actionable ways to identify systematic potential migraine triggers

[01:20]

in your daily life. I meet some of you and you feel confused. You're eating clean, you're exercising,

[01:27]

you're doing all the right things, avoiding all the triggers, having read all the books, met all

[01:32]

of the people, read all of the blogs, and you're still getting migraines again. And you're really

[01:39]

not alone. And this is one of the most frustrating experiences. Migraine is complex and yours is

[01:47]

unique. And through this podcast, I'm going to try to guide you through what could be happening here,

[01:54]

sharing with you some of the biggest patterns that I've seen in my work. So I'm going to start

[01:59]

with this analogy. A baby that is still crying, even though you've done everything right. They've

[02:04]

been fed, they've not cold, you've held them, comforted them, their clothes are not too tight,

[02:10]

the diaper is clean, and yet they're still crying. And if you're a parent, whether your children are

[02:16]

little or like mine, they're now 14 and 11, you know this moment, you run through the checklist

[02:21]

again and again, almost obsessively, asking yourself, what am I missing? Because you've got to believe

[02:27]

your child, just like your brain, is not crying for no reason. And sometimes, all you need is just

[02:35]

another pair of eyes, your partner, your mother, a friend. Because something is there, you just can't

[02:41]

see it yet. There's a saying in Chinese that I love, it goes like this, you cannot see the true

[02:46]

face of the mountain because you are in it. And that's exactly what happens with migraines.

[02:52]

When you're inside your own body, inside your own habits, inside your own stress, your own routines,

[02:59]

you lose perspective. You're doing your best, you're ticking all of the boxes, but you're still

[03:05]

in the mountain. And sometimes, what you need is not more effort, it's a different vantage point.

[03:12]

Someone or something that helps you step aside, even just slightly, to see what you couldn't see

[03:18]

before. And this is where things start to shift. So today, I'm going to try to be that extra pair

[03:24]

of eyes for you, your partner, your friend, the one who helps you step back and look again. Because

[03:30]

migraine is complex and yours is unique. So the first thing that I've observed is how you eat.

[03:39]

So we're going to start there. One of the biggest limitations is how we think about health in the

[03:44]

West, is that we simplify too much. We talk about calories in and out, we talk about proteins,

[03:50]

carbohydrates and fats. We reduce the human body to something almost mechanical. But your body

[03:55]

is not a spreadsheet. There are not just three types of food and there are not just a few systems

[04:00]

at play. And what matters is not just what you eat, but how your body actually receives it. Because

[04:08]

the same food eaten in a different state does not become the same thing in your body. If you are

[04:16]

anxious, if you are rushing, if you are eating in a state of fight or flight, your vagus nerve is not

[04:24]

in a rest and digest. It's in survival mode. And maybe survival is your default mode and you don't

[04:31]

even realize it. And in that state, food is not processed in the same way. It can stagnate,

[04:39]

it can irritate, it can even become toxic to your system. And I have seen that over and over again at

[04:46]

Migraine Heroes. Not in everyone, it's not a majority of the cases, but someone eating very

[04:51]

healthily, yet managing to intoxicate their body. I saw this very clearly for the first time with a

[04:56]

friend I took to see Dr. Zhang about 10 to 12 years ago. She was eating incredibly well, arguably

[05:02]

better than most people, and she was constantly bloated. And she said to me, you've just had a

[05:06]

baby and your stomach is flat, and I look like I've had four children. Not that there's anything, you know,

[05:12]

systematic about someone having had four children, but you know, that's what she said.

[05:16]

So when we saw Dr. Zhang, she said something very simple and very confronting. She says,

[05:20]

I can fix the bloating, but it will come back because it's not about the food. And my friend

[05:25]

broke down into tears, because underneath it all, there was deep stress. A fear of not finding a

[05:32]

partner, not having children, not being able to build the life she longed for. And that stress

[05:36]

was shaping how her body processed everything. She eventually built that life. She has a beautiful

[05:42]

family today. And the journey mattered, the timing mattered, the internal state mattered.

[05:48]

So if you feel like you're doing everything right, one of the first questions is not,

[05:53]

am I eating well? It's, am I digesting well? And your body gives you clues in addition to

[06:00]

the migraines. A good digestion is fairly quiet. It doesn't leave you bloated. It doesn't cause

[06:06]

nausea. It doesn't give you vomiting. It doesn't feel stuck. Even your bowel movements tell a

[06:13]

story. They should be smooth, easy, require no effort or discomfort, limited wiping. And if

[06:19]

that's not your experience, then what you're looking at is not just diet, it's the gut brain

[06:24]

conversation, it's the digestion. And that alone can be a major driver of migraines.

[06:30]

The second big theme around what I see goes really wrong and why people feel they're eating healthily,

[06:36]

but still having migraines is what we eat. There's something completely fascinating

[06:43]

about what we eat today. The rhythm of it, it's fast, it's visual, it's like almost hypnotic.

[06:48]

You have TikTok recipes and Instagram reels and YouTube shorts and food has become performance.

[06:54]

It has to look good first, bright, aesthetic, camera ready. And I see that home too. So my

[07:00]

daughter loves cooking. She's actually quite talented. She really enjoys it. And once a week

[07:05]

she cooks for us and she started to make recipes sometimes from Instagram. And honestly, I adore

[07:11]

watching her. I really do. Even if quietly, sometimes I know some of these creations can be a

[07:16]

little, let's say gut-wrenching. The creativity matters and I don't want to cut her passion down.

[07:22]

So I observe with love from the sidelines. Her body and my sons are much more forgiving than mine.

[07:27]

And a little bit of naughtiness done with love is okay. Wisdom will come later. And for now

[07:32]

it's about the love of it. Okay. But I still really understand what's inside of some of these

[07:38]

recipes. And I'll share with you something that really shifted my perspective. So I have studied

[07:43]

neuroscience at Harvard X and I did that because I was so curious to understand what we're actually

[07:49]

doing to the brain and the body. And I remember this moment so vividly, the professor was dissecting

[07:54]

the body, showing us what's really inside. And I had this almost daring thought. I'm like, wow, like

[08:01]

this is not sexy at all. It doesn't look like a smoothie. It doesn't look like fresh or vibrant

[08:07]

or Instagrammable. Trust me, this was not Instagrammable. If anything, this dissected body,

[08:12]

this gut-brain axis presented in its most raw form, reminded me of what is left in my kitchen

[08:19]

or in my pot after making a long chicken bone broth. The carcass softened, the vegetables

[08:26]

completely faded. Everything melted together into something warm, subdued, almost unrecognizable,

[08:33]

but deeply nourishing. That's what's the inside of the body resembles, the gut-brain axis, not

[08:39]

bright colors, not sharp, raw textures. Something that has been broken down, transformed so lowly

[08:45]

over time. And so it makes you pause because so much of what we eat today is designed for the eye,

[08:51]

not for the body. A smoothie looks clean, it looks vibrant, it looks almost virtuous. A kombucha glows

[08:57]

in a glass, it's beautiful. But digestion doesn't start in the glass, it starts in the mouth,

[09:03]

with saliva, with enzymes like amylase, with that first intelligent step of breaking things down,

[09:10]

signaling to the body what's coming. When we skip that, when we drink our food, rush it, bypass the

[09:15]

process, the body has to work harder later. And over time, some of these healthy habits can create

[09:22]

the opposite effect, heaviness, sluggishness, a kind of internal noise that builds quietly.

[09:28]

So this isn't about removing the joy or the beauty, it's just a gentle invitation to look

[09:32]

again and ask, is this truly nourishing me or is simply pleasing my eyes? And in this category,

[09:38]

I'm going to add coffee with milk. Coffee with milk and other creations on Instagram

[09:45]

are blended in a way that our bodies struggle to understand and make sense of them and creates

[09:49]

this very heavy, thick, fluid build-up that starts to plug our gut and our gut-brain axis. That is

[09:56]

something I see over and over again. And then the third thing are structural situations. That's the

[10:04]

last piece I want to share today, something we don't talk about enough and yet it might be the

[10:08]

most powerful of all, is the structure of your life, the environment you live in, a toxic relationship,

[10:15]

night shift work that disrupts your rhythm, a period of grief that quietly sits in your chest

[10:20]

and doesn't leave. These are not small things, they don't just stay in your mind, they move through

[10:25]

your body, they shape your biology, they slow down, they slowly, persistently chip away at your

[10:32]

energy, at your resilience, at your sense of self. And what I see is that you can do everything right

[10:37]

on the outside, eating well, moving well, trying all the protocols. But if something in your life

[10:42]

is eating away at you, your body knows, it responds. In the analogy of the baby, it makes me think of, you know,

[10:50]

sometimes a baby cries because the mom is emotionally unwell or emotionally stressed

[10:56]

and the baby picks up on it. And sometimes the solution in the case of a baby is as simple as

[11:00]

explaining the child what situation is going on and it's enough to calm the child down.

[11:06]

And sometimes something similar, subtly similar, can happen with the brain. Migraines in many cases,

[11:12]

they're not random, they're signals. And I've seen so many of our heroes in deeply difficult

[11:17]

relationships, in environments that drain them, and the body keeps the score, it speaks, sometimes

[11:23]

really loudly. There are books like The Body Keeps the Score that talk about these topics.

[11:28]

So this is where the work becomes more subtle, but also more profound. It's not always about

[11:33]

doing more, it's about healing differently, about creating space for forgiveness where possible,

[11:38]

about gently, consistently priming your mind towards safety, towards hope, towards something

[11:43]

lighter. Not in a forced or superficial way, but in a way that allows your system to soften again.

[11:49]

Because your mental and emotional world is not separate from your physical health, it's deeply

[11:53]

intertwined. And sometimes tending to that is the most important step of all. So if there's just one

[11:59]

thing to take away from today, it's this. Don't try to do more, try to see differently. Remember

[12:07]

the Chinese saying, you cannot see the true face of the mountain because you are in it. And just to

[12:13]

be honest with you, learning to see differently, that's really hard work. If it were easy, if I could

[12:20]

have handed you a two-page checklist back when I started and said, hey, here's this, you know, it's

[12:26]

going to solve your migraines, I would have done it, posted it online and moved on with my life.

[12:31]

But it's not that simple, because you're not simple. Your body isn't simple. What we've been

[12:37]

building over the last seven years, since 2019, is something that tries to meet that complexity.

[12:43]

An app that helps guide you through these questions, helps you connect the dots, helps you

[12:49]

understand your unique pattern. It's not perfect, and I won't pretend it is, but we're moving

[12:55]

relentlessly and fast in that direction. We genuinely believe that your life matters, that

[13:01]

what you're experiencing is very real, is nuanced and deserves to be understood. And our mission is

[13:07]

simple, to take that complexity and help you turn it into clarity and into small meaningful steps

[13:13]

you can actually act on. And remember, every small step you take moves you closer to freedom.

[13:20]

You are powerful, you are resilient, and you're not alone. Keep rising, Migraine Hero.

Originally published May 2026

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